von Smallhaussen Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Double R said: 35 years ago the Stewards Hcp was quinelled by Orangeade - M Lyndon and Brenlaine - M Enright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Smallhaussen Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Canterbury Belle was 3rd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Smallhaussen Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 However 45 years ago Grey Way with A K R aboard beat Show Gate with C B R riding The Swagger was 3rd 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted November 4, 2021 Author Share Posted November 4, 2021 46 minutes ago, von Smallhaussen said: However 45 years ago Grey Way with A K R aboard beat Show Gate with C B R riding The Swagger was 3rd 😉 Sorry fat fingers - yes 45 years ago two of the all-time greats slugged it out for a winning stake of $3900 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globederby19 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't it Showgate that won a race (Trentham I think) and they found she had broken a front leg or something of that nature, probably just before the finish of the race ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double R Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Globederby19 said: Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't it Showgate that won a race (Trentham I think) and they found she had broken a front leg or something of that nature, probably just before the finish of the race ?. Correct Rees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngakonui grass Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 4 hours ago, Double R said: At one stage in the last twenty years, he was working for Rogie. Not sure where he is now, but hope all is good with him. Sold his property up the road from Rogersons near Temple View and headed back south for family reasons from what i read at the time,possibly 3/5 years ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngakonui grass Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 4 hours ago, PWJ said: I know he did a stint in the Wairarapa at one time also. Was a rotten sire but then his mares were probably shit The only winner i can remember by Crown Law was PISTON,trained by the Sanders.The dam was MENEO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngakonui grass Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 42 minutes ago, Globederby19 said: Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't it Showgate that won a race (Trentham I think) and they found she had broken a front leg or something of that nature, probably just before the finish of the race ?. Got a book written by John Costello.On the cover is a very pensive looking Bob Skelton leading Show Gate back to scale lame after the Trentham Stakes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Show Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Syd Brown 🙂 and his beloved Daryl's Joy - what a horse 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloke Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 I have a copy of Bob Skelton's book where he describes his ride on Show Gate in The Trentham Stakes. He states that he felt her falter at the 1,000 metre mark. When in the straight, he asked her to lengthen stride but she lugged in and began to struggle. Bob felt that she was beaten and pulled the stick out of desperation and that was when she gave everything and passed Varnamo to win by 2 lenghts. Just as she crossed the line Show Gate faltered again ad Bob realised that she had broken down. Bob then pulled up quickly and dismounted. She really was a special horse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloke Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, Dancing Show said: Syd Brown 🙂 and his beloved Daryl's Joy - what a horse 🙂 Yes, he beat Vain over 7 furlongs at Moonee Valley when 40k turned out to watch the unbeaten Vain win. Won The Cox Plate and the VRC Derby. Went onto USA and won some huge races. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 DARYL'S JOY (NZ) 1966 30 starts, 16 wins (5 x Group 1), 9 seconds and 4 thirds. Win % 53.5, Place % 96.7. According to Equibase his USA earnings were USD 125,675 in the 1970 calendar year and USD 67,100 in the 1971 calendar year for a total in the USA of USD 192,775. The RBA USD / AUD exchange rate was unchanged at USD 1.12 = AUD 1.00 for the entire period he raced in the USA so his AUD equivalent earnings were AUD 172,120. The NZD / AUD RBA exchange rate was unchanged during the period Daryl's Joy raced in NZ (NZD 0.9980 = AUD 1.00). I haveI have aligned his USA starts in accordance with the Australian racing year. In summary his record is as follows: In New Zealand 14 starts, 7 wins (2 x Group 1), 5 seconds, 2 thirds for stakewinnings of NZD 21,810 or AUD 21,853.71. In Australia 5 starts, 3 wins (2 x Group 1), 1 second, 1 third for stakewinnings of AUD 73,730 In USA 11 starts, 6 wins (1 x Grade 1), 3 seconds, 1 third for stakewinnings of USD 192,775 or AUD 172,120. Honours - 1985-1995 Daryl's Joy Hcp run at Saratoga USA USA record incomplete - details of his first start in USA unknown and I assume it was the only time he finished outside the first three in his career. Despite not being able to confirm his US winnings at his first and third starts in the USA it is beyond doubt that on 20 Feb 1971 he passed Sailor's Guide's record Australasian stakewinnings of AUD 236,182 when won San Luis Obispo Hcp at Santa Anita Park CA USA and I estimate his cumulative earnings after that win would have been in the vicinity of AUD 264,244. At his next and last start where he finished third he added USD 2,800 or AUD 2,500 to that total. The American Racing Manual's experimental free handicap for rated him the equal fourth best 3YO&Up turf horse on 125 lbs for the 1970 calendar (and US racing) year behind Fort Marcy on 132 lbs, Fiddle Isle on 131 lbs and Vent du Nord on ? lbs and equal with Pinjarra on 125 lbs. His record suggests he is clearly one of the better horses ever to race in Australasia. He managed to beat Vain once in two meetings over 1600m running second in the other noting that he then went on to win the Cox Plate and Victoria Derby at his next two starts before heading to the USA. He beat Cougar II twice in the USA (20 wins and 24 placings from 50 starts) and Cougar II was rated by author Mary Simon as one of the top 22 USA race horses of the 1970s. Odds quoted in the American Racing Manual are for $1.00 win but exclude the amount $1.00 bet. Where the US odds appear below I have included $1.00 to reflect the Australian practice. Any further information about his USA starts would be appreciated. TWO YEARS: 1968-1969 Starts 14: 7-5-2-0 2nd-9 25/09/1968. Hd x 1L Hastings, NI, NZ HBJC Hastings Stakes 4f. 804m. 8.5 53kg 0.48.8. Easy Crown Law 8.5 1st NZD 200 2nd-18 12/10/1968. Sht nk x 5L Opaki, Masterton, NI, NZ MastRC Nursery Hcp 4f. 804m. 8.7. 54kg 0.48.2. Easy, Fav. Kay Royal 8.6 1st NZD 100 3rd-13 19/10/1968. 2.25L x ½ hd Trentham, Wellington, NI, NZ WeRC Wellesley Stakes 5f. 1005m. 8.7. 54kg 0.57.0 (ENZR) Slightly easy Kay Royal 8.7 1st NZD 400 2nd-8 9/11/1968. ½ hd x 2.5L Riccarton, Christchurch, SI, NZ CJC Welcome Stakes 5f. 1005m. 8.5. 53kg 1.00.2. Firm, 2nd Fav. Far Time 8.5 1st NZD 600 1st-10 13/11/1968. Nk x 7L Riccarton, Christchurch, SI, NZ CJC Irwell Hcp 5f. 1005m. 8.12. 56kg 0.58.6. Fast, Fav. Far Time 9.3 2nd NZD 920 1st-11 16/11/1968. 3L x 1L Riccarton, Christchurch, SI, NZ CJC Pioneer Hcp 5f. 1005m. 9.7. 60kg 1.00.2. Soft, Fav. Tony Kaye 8.11 2nd NZD 990 2nd-8 11/12/1968. 0.75L x 3.5L Wanganui, NI, NZ WangJC Celebrity Stakes 5.5f. 1106m. 8.11. 56kg 1.06.0. Fast, 3rd Fav. Crown Law 8.8 5th Fav. 1st NZD 300 2nd-8 18/01/1969. 1L x 2L Trentham, Wellington, NI, NZ WeRC Wellington Stakes 6f. 1207m. cd 7.7½. 47.5kg 1.09.75. Fast, 4th Fav. Mayo Gold 8.11 Fav. 1st NZD 800 1st-7 27/01/1969. 2.5L x 1.25L Ellerslie, Auckland, NI, NZ AuRC Eclipse Stakes Abt. 6f. Abt 1200m. 8.3 52kg 1.11.2 (ERR) Firm, 2nd Fav. Mighty Concorde 8.0 3rd Fav. 2nd NZD 2,600 3rd-9 8/03/1969. 1.5L x hd Trentham, Wellington, NI, NZ WeRC North Island Challenge Stakes 7f. 1408m. cd 7.2. 45.5kg 1.23.5. Firm Wood Court Inn 6.9 5th Fav. 1st NZD 400 1st-9 15/03/1969. 0.75L x 3L Trentham, Wellington, NI, NZ WeRC Wakefield Challenge Stakes 7f. 1408m. 9.1. 57.5kg 1.23.25. Fast, 4th Fav. Agreement 8.0 Fav. 2nd NZD 3,900 1st-10 29/03/1969. 2.75L x hd Awapuni, Palmerston North, NI, NZ MwtuRC 61st Manawatu Sires Produce Stakes (G1) 7f. 1408m. 8.12. 56kg 1.24.8 (ERR) Fast, Fav. Astrella 7.11 2nd NZD 2,600 1st-7 5/04/1969. 2.5L x 0.5L Ellerslie, Auckland, NI, NZ AuRC Great Northern Champagne Stakes 6f. 1207m. 8.10. 55.5kg 1.11.2 (ERR) Good, Fav. Princess Tina 8.8 2nd NZD 2,600 1st-11 12/04/1969. 1.25L x 2.5L Ellerslie, Auckland, NI, NZ AuRC Ellerslie Championship Stakes (G1) 7f. 1408m. 8.12. 56kg 1.24.0. Fast, Fav. Mighty Concorde 8.0 4th Fav. 2nd NZD 5,400 THREE YEARS: 1969-1970 Starts 9: 4-3-1-1 3rd-10 13/09/1969. 1.25L x 4L Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS VRC Ascot Vale Stakes 6f. 1207m. 8.12. 56kg 1.12.6. Slow, 33/1. Vain 9.5 2/9F 1st AUD 480 1st-11 27/09/1969. 0.75L x 5L Moonee Valley, Melbourne, VIC, AUS MVRC Moonee Valley Stakes 8f. 1609m. 8.9. 55kg 1.40.5. Slow, 10/1. Vain 8.9 4/9F 2nd AUD 14,200 2nd-9 11/10/1969. 3L x 6L Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS VATC Caulfield Guineas 8f. 1609m. 8.10. 55.5kg 1.36.2 (RR) Fast, 6/4 Vain 8.10 9/10F 1st AUD 3,150 1st-10 25/10/1969. 2.5L x 2L Moonee Valley, Melbourne, VIC, AUS MVRC W.S. Cox Plate (G1) 10f. 2011m. 7.11. 49.5kg 2.05.4. Fast, 7/2. Ben Lomond 9.4 7/4F 2nd AUD 21,600 1st-13 1/11/1969. 3L x 4L Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS VRC Victoria Derby (G1) 12f. 2414m. 8.10. 55.5kg 2.33.3. Slow, 5/4F Top Flat 8.10 7/2 2nd AUD 34,300 Unpl- circa 6/04/1970. Margin ? Hollywood Park ? Racename ? XXf. (turf?) XXXXm. XXXlbs XXkg Time ? Odds ? Horse name 1st ? USD 0.00 2nd- 16/04/1970. 3L x ? Hollywood Park, Los Angeles, CA, USA Coronado Stakes 8.5f. (turf) 1709m. 122 lbs 55.5kg 1.41.0. Odds ? Pinjarra 116 1st USD 3,800 1st- circa 5/05/1970. Margin ? Hollywood Park, Los Angeles, CA, USA Senorita race ? 8f. (turf) 1609m. XXXlbs XXkg 1.35.0. Odds ? Horse name 2nd ? USD 6,625# 2nd-10 12/05/1970. Nse x ? Hollywood Park, Los Angeles, CA, USA Cortez Hcp. 11f (turf) 2212m. 122 lbs 55.5kg 2.15.0. Fast, 6/5F Vagabundo (CHI) 120 1st USD 3,800 FOUR YEARS: 1970-1971 Starts 7: 5-1-1-0 1st- 10/08/1970. Margin ? Del Mar, near San Diego, CA, USA Junior Leagues Purse 8.5f. (turf?) 1709m. XXXlbs XXkg 1.42.4 (0.2 outside CR) 3/5F. Dizzy Babe 2nd USD 4,400 1st-6 7/09/1970. Hd x nse Del Mar, near San Diego, CA, USA Del Mar Hcp (currently G2) 11f. (turf) 2212m. 123lbs 56kg 2.15.4 (CR) $3.90. Cougar II (CH) 114 $6.10 2nd Contrados 110 3rd USD 33,450 2nd- 10/10/1970. Margin ? Santa Anita Park, Arcadia, near LA, CA, USA Carleton F Burke Invitational Hcp 10f (turf) 2011m. 123lbs 56kg 1.58.8. Odds ? Fiddle Isle 129 $10.40 1st USD 10,000 1st-6 31/10/1970. Nk x 4L Santa Anita Park, Arcadia, near LA, CA, USA Oak Tree Invitational Stakes (G1) (currently John Henry Turf Championship Stakes) 12f. (turf) 2414m. 126lbs 57kg 2.26.2. Firm, $8.30. Fiddle Isle 126 $1.30 2nd Cougar II (CHI) 126 $1.30 3rd USD 63,600 1st- 4/02/1971. Margin ? Santa Anita Park, Arcadia, near LA, CA, USA Arcadia Hcp (later Frank E. Kilroe Mile Hcp (currently G1)) 10f. (turf) 2011m. 126lbs 57kg 1.59.6. Odds ? Magic Hope II 115 2nd USD 26,000 1st-7 20/02/1971. 0.5L x nse Santa Anita Park, Arcadia, near LA, CA, USA San Luis Obispo Hcp (currently G2) 12f. (turf) 2414m. 128lbs 58kg 2.29.20. Yielding, 11/10F. Cougar II (CHI) 127 4/1 2nd Onandaga 110 3rd USD 38,300 3rd-* 23/04/1971. Margin ? Hollywood Park, Los Angeles, CA, USA Crenshaw Stakes 8.5f. (turf) 1709m. 126lbs 57kg 1.41.2. Odds ? Pinjara 118 1st USD 2,800 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Show Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Talking about Show Gate's win at Trentham - came across this article about Daryl's Joy - https://www.smh.com.au/sport/racing/browns-joy-daryl-best-of-a-fine-bunch-20101030-1786v.html He nearly didn't run in the Derby due to an inflamed off-foreleg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngakonui grass Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Pin Puller was a son of Daryl's Joy that stood in NZ many years ago.Don't know if he left many winners but a mate of mine had one that placed once or twice from memory. Its name was La Grenade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted November 15, 2021 Author Share Posted November 15, 2021 On 11/5/2021 at 7:14 AM, ngakonui grass said: Pin Puller was a son of Daryl's Joy that stood in NZ many years ago.Don't know if he left many winners but a mate of mine had one that placed once or twice from memory. Its name was La Grenade. Pin Puller was standing in Taranaki at one time, out Okato way. Saw him once - looked like a fat little pit pony. Born in Florida - ended up in Okato - not many can make that claim !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted December 20, 2021 Author Share Posted December 20, 2021 Okay, here's a new teaser for Mid-Week trivia Name the former racecourse in the photo.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) Manunui racetrack, Taumarunui? Edited December 20, 2021 by mardigras Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted December 20, 2021 Author Share Posted December 20, 2021 8 minutes ago, mardigras said: Manunui racetrack, Taumarunui? Shit, you're good Mardy. How did you know that ? I thought this one would go on for days!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, PWJ said: Shit, you're good Mardy. How did you know that ? I thought this one would go on for days!! Clue was in the picture - SH4. So I thought of clubs along that route and came up with Taumarunui first up. Looked up the history of Taumarunui raceclub and saw the name of the track they used to use. Lucky really. Edited December 20, 2021 by mardigras Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted December 20, 2021 Author Share Posted December 20, 2021 Okay then try this everyone: Name the racecourse.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Blue Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 58 minutes ago, PWJ said: Okay then try this everyone: Name the racecourse.... Kumara Racecourse ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted December 21, 2021 Author Share Posted December 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Lightning Blue said: Kumara Racecourse ? No, but good try. Good sole of grass I note. Pic probably around 1910 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Smallhaussen Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Ashurst? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted December 21, 2021 Author Share Posted December 21, 2021 1 hour ago, von Smallhaussen said: Ashurst? Good try also. I played football there once amongst the sheep shit ! Getting warmer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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