ngakonui grass Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 9.He consumed green barley which gave him a fatal inflammation of the lungs on 22/12/1872. Correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngakonui grass Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 8.He raced over 2 miles the day after the MC and won in the same time. He also won over 3 miles later that season. He did too, tough horse, but not the answer I was looking for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngakonui grass Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 10..3 times 1955 .Toparoa 1956.Evening Pearl 1957.Straight Draw Correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted September 18, 2019 Author Share Posted September 18, 2019 Going to have to get a lot tougher. These 3 iconic Aus horses, between them had almost 200 starts, and despite 7 attempts, none ever won a MC Tough horses compared to the light campaigns of most of today's mob Who are they 13. Well tried with over 70 starts, including 4 attempts at the Caulfield Cup, 2 attempts at the MC. Won a lot of major G1 cups, even beat the MC winner of that year in a race a month before the cup, carrying 10.5 kg more. Developed a homing pigeon tendency when retired 14. Again, over 70 starts, 3 MC attempts for no wins, in fact their last race was in the MC. Quite a bit of a different career, as they had no group race starts at 3 years, and only one of those races was at 2000m, the rest mainly being in the sprinter/miler range. 15. Over 40 starts, with a more than 50% win record. Raced in the MC as a 3 year old and a 4 year old, and not even close. Unbeaten as a 5 year old. Great name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted September 18, 2019 Author Share Posted September 18, 2019 Typo ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngakonui grass Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Maximus said: sorry NG, but Evening Pearl is not correct. No typo,just me seeing and assuming. Evening Peal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngakonui grass Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 No more than anyone else,its just that being unemployed/able for the last 5 years i have more time to press the computer keys and read from the few books i have on hand,but these latest questions have me stuffed. 2 hours ago, Maximus said: you know an awful lot about nz racing NG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VC! Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 14 Super Impose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted September 19, 2019 Author Share Posted September 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Maximus said: 18 Right on brother Terry Freeman, the Keeper of The Roses at Flemington, and his 17 staff That's just under 1000 roses each.................. bugger that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted September 19, 2019 Author Share Posted September 19, 2019 1 hour ago, VC! said: 14 Super Impose Right on also Ian, how did you figure that out Race Record For Super Impose Age Fin Date Track Race Distance Jockey Weight Winner/2nd Betting Runners Time Age Finished Date Track Race Distance Jockey Weight Winner/2nd 3yo 1st 28-Dec-87 Seymour Strathbogie Maiden 1200m S Burridge 53.5kg 2-Mighty Kaoru 3yo 2nd 12-Jan-88 Seymour Improvers Hcp 1300m S Burridge 53.5kg 1-Ranchero Star 3yo 3rd 25-Jan-88 Sandown Tolerance Hcp 1400m C Dinn 54.5kg 1-Past Habit 3yo 12th 9-Feb-88 Moonee Valley St Magnus Hcp 1636m C Dinn 53.5kg 1-Devil's Dare 3yo 2nd 20-Feb-88 Geelong Progressive Hcp 1700m S Burridge 54kg 1-Just Eartha 3yo 2nd 4-Mar-88 Colac Improvers Hcp 2000m S Burridge 54.5kg 1-Oblation 3yo 1st 7-May-88 Benalla Improvers Hcp 1200m P Riley 56.5kg 2-Sun Vita 3yo 5th 25-May-88 Caulfield Ormond Hcp 1400m S Marshall 53.5kg 1-Haughty Lad 3yo 2nd 1-Jun-88 Flemington Glencoe Hcp 1400m D Gauci 54kg 1-Chetford 3yo 11th 18-Jun-88 Sandown Mayfield Hcp 1400m H White 52kg 1-Silver Scout 4yo 3rd 7-Sep-88 Seymour Progressive Hcp 1200m S Marshall 55kg 1-High Mission 4yo 4th 1-Oct-88 Flemington Open Hcp 1600m S Marshall 50kg 1-Bonded 4yo 2nd 12-Oct-88 Caulfield Welter 1600m S Marshall 52kg 1-Eastern Classic 4yo 3rd 20-Oct-88 Geelong Open Hcp 1700m S Marshall 52kg 1-Barusha 4yo 2nd 5-Nov-88 Flemington Grey Smith Stakes 2000m D Gauci 52.5kg 1-Crown Ridge 4yo 2nd 16-Nov-88 Ballarat Ballarat Cup 2200m M Heagney 51.5kg 1-Great Warrior 4yo 1st 26-Nov-88 Sandown Eclipse Stakes 2100m M Heagney 52kg 2-Crown Ridge 4yo 1st 17-Dec-88 Rosehill Welter 1900m RS Dye 59.5kg 2-Garoona 4yo 1st 26-Dec-88 Randwick Summer Cup 2400m RS Dye 55.5kg 2-Moniuszko 2.28.05 4yo 2nd 11-Feb-89 Sandown CF Orr Stakes 1400m D Gauci 57kg 1-Vo Rogue 4yo 2nd 25-Feb-89 Caulfield St George Stakes 1800m RS Dye 57kg 1-Vo Rogue 4yo 1st 4-Mar-89 Caulfield TS Carlyon Cup 2000m D Gauci 57kg 2-Dandy Andy 4yo 2nd 11-Mar-89 Flemington Australian Cup 2000m D Gauci 57kg 1-Vo Rogue 4yo 5th 6-May-89 Eagle Farm Sir Byrne Hart Stakes 1400m RS Dye 57kg 1-Groucho 4yo 8th 13-May-89 Gold Coast Hollindale Cup 1800m RS Dye 57kg 1-Eye Of The Sky 5yo 9th 26-Aug-89 Sandown Grange Hcp 1000m D Oliver 57.5kg 1-Undoubted 5yo 3rd 9-Sep-89 Flemington Craiglee Stakes 1600m D Gauci 58.5kg 1-Apollo Run 5yo 2nd 23-Sep-89 Sandown Vite Cheval Hcp 1600m D Oliver 58kg 1-Painted Ocean 5yo 4th 28-Sep-89 Caulfield Underwood Stakes 2000m D Gauci 59kg 1-Almaarad 2.01.9 5yo 1st 7-Oct-89 Flemington Turnbull Stakes 2000m D Gauci 57.5kg 2-Research 5yo 9th 14-Oct-89 Caulfield Caulfield Stakes 2000m H White 59kg 1-Almaarad 2.02.1 5yo 10th 21-Oct-89 Caulfield Caulfield Cup 2400m RS Dye 56kg 1-Cole Diesel 12-1 18 ran 2.27.2 5yo 4th 4-Nov-89 Flemington Mackinnon Stakes 2000m D Gauci 58.5kg 1-Horlicks 5yo 2nd 7-Jan-89 Flemington Melbourne Cup 3200m D Gauci 56kg 1-Tawriffic 25-1 23 ran 3.17.1 5yo 3rd 27-Jan-90 Caulfield JRA Plate 1000m D Gauci 60kg 1-Street Ruffian 5yo 2nd 10-Feb-90 Sandown CF Orr Stakes 1400m RS Dye 57.5kg 1-Vo Rogue 1.23.3 5yo 2nd 17-Feb-90 Flemington Blamey Stakes 1600m D Gauci 57.5kg 1-Better Loosen Up 5yo 3rd 12-Mar-90 Flemington Australian Cup 2000m D Gauci 58kg 1-Vo Rogue 5yo 3rd 24-Mar-90 Rosehill Segenhoe Stakes 2000m L Dittman 58kg 1-Better Loosen Up 5yo 1st 14-Apr-90 Randwick Doncaster Hcp 1600m B Compton 57kg 2-Shaftesbury Avenue 1.38.4 6yo 1st 18-Aug-90 Warwick Warwick Stakes 1400m D Gauci 58.5kg 2-Eastern Classic 1.24.3 6yo 2nd 1-Sep-90 Randwick Chelmsford Stakes 1600m D Gauci 58.kg 1-Stargazer 1.36.9 6yo 2nd 22-Sep-90 Randwick George Main Stakes 1600m D Gauci 58.5kg 1-Shaftesbury Avenue 1.35.9 6yo 1st 29-Sep-90 Randwick Epsom Hcp 1600m D Gauci 58.5kg 2-Our Poverty Bay 1.36.1 6yo 2nd 13-Oct-90 Caulfield Caulfield Stakes 2000m D Oliver 59kg 1-Sydeston 2.03.00 6yo 7th 19-Jan-91 Sandown Rubiton Stakes 1000m D Gauci 57.5kg 1-Redelva 6yo 1st 2-Feb-91 Flemington Chester Manifold Stakes 1400m D Gauci 57kg 2-Coachman's Chill 6yo 5th 9-Feb-91 Sandown CF Orr Stakes 1400m D Gauci 57.5kg 1-Planet Ruler 1.23.00 6yo 1st 23-Feb-91 Warwick Farm Chipping Norton Stakes 1600m D Beadman 58kg 2-Royal Creation 1.36.0 6yo 1st 9-Mar-91 Rosehill Ranvet Stakes 2000m D Beadman 58kg 2-Royal Creation 2.00.98 6yo 6th 23-Mar-91 Rosehill The BMW 2400m D Beadman 58.5kg 1-Dr Grace 2.28.16 6yo 1st 30-Mar-91 Randwick Doncaster Hcp 1600m D Beadman 59.5kg 2-Royal Creation 1.36.5 6yo 2nd 6-Apr-91 Randwick All Aged Stakes 1600m D Beadman 57.5kg 1-Shafterbury Avenue 1.33.8 7yo 1st 24-Aug-91 Warwick Farm Warwick Stakes 1400m D Beadman 58.5kg 2-Livistona Lane 1.24.7 7yo 6th 21-Sep-91 Randwick Chelmsford Stakes 1600m D Beadman 58.5kg 1-Stargazer 1.36.6 7yo 1st 21-Sep-91 Canterbury Hill Stakes 1900m D Beadman 59kg 2-Just A Dancer 1.56.69 7yo 1st 5-Oct-91 Randwick Epsom Hcp 1600m D Beadman 61kg 2-Livistona Lane 1.34.7 7yo 2nd 12-Oct-91 Caulfield Caulfield Stakes 2000m D Beadman 59kg 1-Shaftesbury Avenue 1.59.3 7yo 2nd 26-Oct-91 Moonee Valley WS Cox Plate 2040m D Beadman 59kg 1-Surfer's Paradise 5-1 14 ran 2.03.8 7yo 2nd 2-Nov-91 Flemington Mackinnon Stakes 2000m D Beadman 58.5kg 1-Let's Elope 7yo 4th 5-Nov-91 Flemington Melbourne Cup 3200m D Beadman 60kg 1-Let's Elope 20-1 24 ran 3.18.9 7yo 2nd 22-Feb-92 Randwick Apollo Stakes 1400m D Beadman 57.5kg 1-Quick Score 1.23.0 7yo 1st 15-Mar-92 Randwick Chipping Norton Stakes 1600m D Beadman 57.5kg 2-Quick Score 1.35.0 7yo 5th 28-Mar-92 Rosehill Ranvet Stakes 2000m D Beadman 58kg 1-My Eagle Eye 2.05.23 7yo 5th 11-Apr-92 Rosehill Ajax Stakes 1500m D Beadman 60kg 1-Alderson 1.29.78 7yo 6th 18-Apr-92 Randwick Doncaster Hcp 1600m D Beadman 62.5kg 1-Soho Square 1.37.5 7yo 4th 20-Apr-92 Randwick Queen Elizabeth Stakes 2000m D Beadman 58kg 1-Rough Habit 2.03.8 8yo 2nd 22-Aug-92 Warwick Warwick Stakes 1400m C Munce 58.5kg 1-Shaftesbury Avenue 1.23.8 8yo 3rd 5-Sep-92 Randwick Chelmsford Stakes 1600m C Munce 58.5kg 1-Dr Grace 1.36.2 8yo 2nd 19-Sep-92 Rosehill Hill Stakes 1900m C Munce 59kg 1-Muirfield Village 1.55.69 8yo 4th 3-Oct-92 Randwick Epsom Hcp 1600m C Munce 61.5kg 1-Kinjite 1.34.1 8yo 1st 11-Oct-92 Canberra Canberra Cup 2400m L Dittman 58kg 2-Galilei 8yo 1st 24-Oct-92 Moonee Valley WS Cox Plate 2040m G Hall 59kg 2-Kinjite 16-1 14 ran 2.05.5 8yo 15th 3-Nov-92 Flemington Melbourne Cup 3200m L Dittman 59kg 1-Subzero 25-1 21 ran 3.24.7 STARTS : 75 (21 WINS, 24 2NDS, 8 3RDS, 22 UNPLACED) GROUP 1 WINS : 10 (races that are currently Group 1) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted September 19, 2019 Author Share Posted September 19, 2019 No, you've gotta be kidding me, trainspotter supreme.........to be feared Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VC! Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 13 Ming Dynasty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngakonui grass Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Maximus said: Can anyone else spot the mistake in Super Impose's race record?? Don't know for sure but the information i have just read says he only had 74 starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted September 19, 2019 Author Share Posted September 19, 2019 19 minutes ago, VC! said: 13 Ming Dynasty MING DYNASTY (AUS) 1973 76 starts, 17 wins (6 x Group 1), 12 seconds and 9 thirds. Win % 22.4, Place % 50.0. Career earnings were AUD 547,825 As my stakewinnings total varies slightly from other figures I have seen I have included each race's earnings at the end of each race result. Bloodhound has / had a total of $463,538. The differences are as follows: Bloodhound understates by $400 earnings from the 1976 AJC Summer Cup omitting the $400 trophy. Bloodhound understates by $83,887 earnings from the 1980 Caulfield Cup (first prize was $135,000 inc $5,000 trophy, not $51,113). The 1983 Miller's Guide reported earnings of $547,825. Ming Dynasty's Wikipedia entry has no earnings figure. Peter Pring (Major Australian races and Racehorses 1960-1980) sets out his complete record up to the end of the 1979-80 season. He omitted prizemoney of $1,000 for Ming's fifth placing in the 1978 Sydney Cup. TWO YEARS: 1975 -1976 Starts 6: 1-2-2-1 3rd-13 18/02/1976. Lg hd x 1.5L Canterbury, Sydney, NSW, AUS STC 2nd Lilyfield Maiden Hcp 1000m. 53.5kg 1.01.1. Good, 5/1. Bernard 52 5/1 1st Marjie's Boy 54.5 7/4F 2nd AUD 400 1st-14 8/03/1976. 10L x 1.5L Canterbury, Sydney, NSW, AUS STC 3rd Sans Souci Hcp Abt. 1200m. 54kg 1.14.4. Good, 2/1. Donati's Comet 51 5/1 2nd King's Caper's 52 7/4F 7th AUD 2,500 6th-15 17/03/1976. 3L x nk Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS AJC Bantry Bay Hcp (2nd Division) 1400m. 56.5kg 1.26.7. Good Glen Vain 51.5 6/4F 1st Manerko 51 33/1 2nd AUD 0 2nd-16 10/04/1976. ½ nk x 1.75L Warwick Farm, Sydney, NSW, AUS AJC Liverpool Festival Hcp (1st Division) 1400m. 54kg 1.25.9. Good, 6/4F. Glen Vain 56 13/4 1st Dublin Express 51 5/2 3rd AUD 1,070 3rd-12 21/04/1976. Lg hd x 2L Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS AJC Fernhill Hcp 1600m. 55.5kg 1.37.2. Good, 7/4F. Willowy 50 7/2 1st Forte 48.5 7/2 2nd AUD 630 2nd-19 22/05/1976. 3L x sht hd Rosehill, Sydney, NSW, AUS STC St. Leonard's Hcp 1400m. 57kg 1.24.5. Good, 4/1. Duke Ellington 52.5 9/1 1st Always's Welcome 54.5 2/1F 4th AUD 1,300 THREE YEARS: 1976-1977 Starts 16: 6-3-3-4 1st-11 4/09/1976. Sht hd x 3.5L Canterbury, Sydney, NSW, AUS STC Kilshery Graduation Stakes (2nd Division) 1280m. 53kg 1.17.1. Good, 3/1. Tattenham Lad 50 6/4F2nd Donati's Comet 51.5 10/1 3rd AUD 4,000 9th-19 18/09/1976. 2.75L x 1.25L Rosehill, Sydney, NSW, AUS STC Hydrogen Graduation Stakes 1400m. 55.5kg 1.23.6. Good Blockbuster 53 6/1 1st Tattenham Lad 50 9/2 2nd AUD 0 2nd-13 2/10/1976. ½ nk x 3L Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS AJC Trial Stakes 2000m. 50.5kg 2.05.5 Good, 11/2. Stadium Star 54.5 3/1 1st Triumphant 54 5/2F 3rd AUD 1,330 1st-16 23/10/1976. 3.5L x lg nk Rosehill, Sydney, NSW, AUS STC Colyton Graduation Stakes 2000m. 55.5kg 2.03.4. Slow, 11/4. Maybe Street 53 100/1 2nd Hudson's Bay (NZ) 53 5/2F 3rd AUD 4,000 3rd-14 4/11/1976. 3L x nk Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS VRC Batman Hcp 2000m. 55kg 2.03.7. Slow, 3/1F. Opposition 53 11/2 1st Fearella 53 20/1 2nd AUD 800 1st-9 1/12/1976. 3L x 2L Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS AJC Forestville Hcp 1600m. 50.5kg 1.35.7. Fast, 3/1. Dear John 51.5 7/1 2nd Sniff 50.5 6/4F 4th AUD 2,950 1st-8 18/12/1976. 1.25L x 3L Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS AJC December Hcp 2000m. 52kg 2.01.5. Good, 5/4F. Maddox Lane 51 11/2 2nd Cool Classic 48.5 16/1 3rd AUD 4,265 1st-10 27/12/1976. 0.5L x 1.25L Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS AJC Summer Cup 2400m. 54kg 2.29.1. Good, 3/1. Lazy Pat 53 11/4F 2nd Purple Pride 50 6/1 3rd AUD 8,200 2nd-6 1/01/1977. 1.75L x 5L Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS Tattersall's Club Tattersall's Club Cup 2400m. 55kg 2.28.9. Good 9/4EF Lazy Pat 52 9/4EF 1st Maddox Lane 50.5 7/1 3rd AUD 1,930 4th-11 19/02/1977. 1.5L x 0.5L Canterbury, Sydney, NSW, AUS STC Frederick Clissold Hcp 1200m. 54.5kg 1.10.2. Good, 50/1. Tiger Town 52 5/2F 1st Makara 51 15/4 2nd AUD 400 4th-6 12/03/1977. 1.5L x 1.75L Rosehill, Sydney, NSW, AUS STC Phar Lap Stakes 1500m. 54kg 1.31.1. Good, 9/4. Blockbuster 54 4/5F 1st Salamander 54 4/1 2nd AUD 500 1st-12 26/03/1977. Hd x sht ½ hd Rosehill, Sydney, NSW, AUS STC Tulloch 3YO Stakes 1850m. 54kg 1.53.5. Fast, 7/1. Leonotis 54 20/1 2nd Salamander 54 9/4F 4th AUD 6,200 3rd-12 9/04/1977. 1L x ½ nk Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS AJC Australasian Champion Stakes 2000m. 54kg 2.03.5. Fast, 14/1. Sir Silver Lad (NZ) 54 1st Salamander 54 7/1 2nd AUD 8,000 7th-12 13/04/1977. 1.5L x 1.5L Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS AJC All-Aged Stakes 1600m. 54.5kg 1.34.0. Fast, Dalrello 57.5 7/4F 1st Manawapoi 57.5 12/1 2nd AUD 0 2nd-9 14/05/1977. 7L x 0.75L Doomben, Brisbane, QLD, AUS BATC Clive Uhr Quality Hcp 2020m. 55.5kg 2.04.1. Good, 2/1. Sir Serene 49.5 8/11F 1st Miner's Inn 49.5 10/1 3rd AUD 1,600 3rd-11 21/05/1977. 2L x 2L Eagle Farm, Brisbane, QLD, AUS QTC Grand Prix Stakes 2200m. 55.5kg 2.19.2. Slow, 4/1. Surround 55.5 5/4F 1st Miner's Inn 53 33/1 q2nd AUD 2,000 FOUR YEARS: 1977-1978 Starts 21: 5-4-2-10 4th-9 27/08/1977. ½ hd x sht ½ hd Sandown, Melbourne, VIC, AUS VATC Liston Stakes 1400m. 57kg 1.24.7. Good, 50/1. Vice Regal (NZ) 57 5/1 1st Surround 54.5 4/5F 6th AUD 750 1st-10 10/09/1977. 0.75L x 2L Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS VRC Craiglee Stakes 1600m. 57kg 1.38.0. Good, 14/1. Family of Man 57 10/9F 2nd Silent Gift 58.5 10/1 3rd AUD 9,750 6th-11 22/09/1977. Sht hd x 0.25L Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS VATC Underwood Stakes Abt 2000m. 57kg 2.00.8. Fast, 13/2. Denise's Joy 56.5 33/1 1st Vice Regal (NZ) 57 11/8F 2nd AUD 0 DH 5th-14 1/10/1977. Nk x 0.75L Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS VRC Turnbull Stakes 2000m. 57.5kg 2.03.8. Fast, 12/1. Salamander 53 9/2 1st Vice Regal (NZ) 57.5 9/4F 4th AUD 0 5th-12 8/10/1977. 1.5L x 0.5L Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS VATC Toorak Hcp 1600m. 55kg 1.37.4. Fast, 6/1. Nunkalowe 52 8/1 1st Desirable 56.5 5/4F 6th AUD 0 1st-18 15/10/1977. 1.25L x sht hd Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS VATC Caulfield Cup (G1) 2400m. 54kg 2.28.5. Fast, 9/1. Unaware 56.5 7/1 2nd Family of Man 55.5 5/1EF 4th; Sir Serene 52 5/1EF 9th AUD 91,250 11th-14 22/10/1977. Lg nk x 1L Moonee Valley, Melbourne, VIC, AUS MVRC W. S. Cox Plate 2050m. 57kg 2.05.3. Good, 20/1. Family of Man 57 10/1 1st Luskin Star 48.5 7/4F 9th AUD 0 8th-24 1/11/1977. 1L x 2.5L Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS VRC Melbourne Cup 3200m. 56kg 3.18.4 (Metric RR) Fast, 20/1. Gold and Black (NZ) 57 7/2F 1st Reckless 56.5 11/2 2nd AUD 0 6th-9 11/02/1978. Lg nk x ½ nk Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS VATC C.F. Orr Stakes 1400m. 57kg 1.25.6. Slow, 25/1. Hyperno (NZ) 57 20/1 1st Family of Man 57 7/4 3rd AUD 0 7th-9 25/02/1978. Hd x lg nk Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS VATC St. George Stakes 1800m. 57kg 1.51.6. Fast, 10/1. Unaware 57 14/1 1st Opposition 57 9/10F 2nd AUD 0 4th-10 4/03/1978. 1.25L x ½ nk Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS VATC T S Carlyon Cup 2000m. 57.5kg 2.02.5. Fast, 11/1. Hyperno (NZ) 56.5 6/4F 1st Ready O'Ready 53 8/1 2nd AUD 1,000 1st-13 13/03/1978. 0.5L x 4L Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS VRC Australian Cup (G1) 2000m. 58kg 2.02.6. Good, 7/2F. Crepellox (NZ) 51 7/1 2nd Carl's Gift 48.5 12/1 3rd AUD 33,900 1st-6 25/03/1978. 4L x 5L Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS AJC Autumn Stakes 2000m. 57kg 2.09.1. Slow, 6/4. Hyperno (NZ) 57 5/4F 2nd Tod Bay 58 10/1 3rd AUD 9,850 5th-15 27/03/1978. 4L x 0.5L Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS AJC Sydney Cup 3200m. 58kg 3.27.9. Slow, 9/1. My Good Man 60 7/1 1st Hyperno 49.5 3/1F 6th AUD 1,000 1st-6 1/04/1978. 13L x nk Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS AJC Queen Elizabeth Stakes (G1) 2400m. 57kg 2.43.5. Heavy, 2/1EF. Unaware 57 11/2 2nd Belmura Lad (NZ) 52.5 2/1EF 3rd AUD 13,000 2nd-10 13/05/1978. 2.25L x 0.5L Doomben, Brisbane, QLD, AUS BATC Handicap 1610m. 60.5kg 1.39.0. Good, 5/2. Sweet Bye 47 20/1 1st Yo Tambien 54 9/4F 4th AUD 800 2nd-7 20/05/1978. Sht ½ hd x 4L Eagle Farm, Brisbane, QLD, AUS QTC P. J. O'Shea Stakes 2200m. 57kg 2.25.7. Good, 1/3F. Tod Bay 57.5 9/2 1st Hyatt 57 8/1 3rd AUD 2,000 3rd-9 3/06/1978. 1.25L x 1L Eagle Farm, Brisbane, QLD, AUS QTC Sir Winston Churchill Stakes 2200m. 60kg 2.17.7. Good, 4/6F. Miner's Inn 52 4/1 1st Shazoom 48 14/1 3rd AUD 600 2nd-18 5/06/1978. Sht nk x lg hd Eagle Farm, Brisbane, QLD, AUS QTC Brisbane Cup 3200m. 59kg 3.22.5. Good, 16/1. Muros 52.5 10/1 1st Miner's Inn 50 6/1EF 6th; Hyperno 59.5 6/1EF 7th AUD 12,000 2nd-16 24/06/1978. 0.75L x 1L Eagle Farm, Brisbane, QLD, AUS Tattersall's Cup 2200m. 60kg 2.14.1. Good, 7/1. Future Shock 54 6/1 1st Bermadez (NZ) 51 11/2F 7th AUD 4,000 3rd-20 8/07/1978. 0.75L x sht hd Doomben, Brisbane, QLD, AUS BATC Doomben Cup 2200m. 60kg 2.13.8 (CR) Good, 4/1F. Marceau 51 25/1 1st Lloyd Boy 49 10/1 2nd AUD 6,000 FIVE YEARS: 1978 -1979 Starts 7: 3-0-2-2 11th-11 26/08/1978. 3L x lg hd Warwick Farm, Sydney, NSW, AUS AJC Warwick Stakes 1400m. 58.5kg 1.23.3. Good, 4/1. Party's Pride 58.5 3/1F 1st Ashbah 58.5 16/1 2nd AUD 0 1st-5 9/09/1978. 1L x 6L Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS Tattersall's Club Chelmsford Stakes 1800m. 59kg 1.56.0. Heavy, 13/4. Flying Flag 52.5 5/2 2nd Sungazer cd 46 10/9F 3rd AUD 7,800 3rd-8 23/09/1978. 1.75L x 1.5L Rosehill, Sydney, NSW, AUS STC Hill Stakes 1750m. 59kg 1.46.9. Good, 10/9F. Marceau 57 5/4 1st Valadero 59 20/1 2nd AUD 2,000 1st-5 30/09/1978. 3.25L x 2.5L Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS AJC Craven Plate 2000m. 59kg 2.07.8. Slow, 1/2F. Dungarven 57 66/1 2nd Lavache (IRE) 59 6/1 3rd AUD 9,850 1st-23 2/10/1978. Hd x 1.25L Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS AJC The Metropolitan (G1) 2600m. 59.5kg 2.45.2. Good, 13/2. Arwon (NZ) 49 16/1 2nd Over The Ocean (NZ) 50 7/2F AUD 70,000 3rd-10 14/10/1978. ½ nk x sht hd Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS VATC Caulfield Stakes 2000m. 59kg 2.02.3. Good, 5/1. Lloyd Boy 57 12/1 1st Lefroy (NZ) 57 7/4F 2nd AUD 3,000 5th-18 21/10/1978. Sht ½ hd x 3.5L Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS VATC Caulfield Cup 2400m. 61kg 2.27.5. Good, 16/1. Taksan (NZ) 52 14/1 1st So Called (NZ) 55.5 9/4F 13th AUD 0 SIX YEARS: 1979 -1980 Starts 14: 1-2-0-11 2nd-12 4/08/1979. 5L x sht ½ hd Victoria Park, Adelaide, SA, AUS SAJC Straight Five Hcp 1000m. 63 cd 60kg 0.58.0. Good, 25/1. Mellow Tint cd 49 8/10F 1st Outer Marker cd 48.5 40/1 3rd AUD 1,100 2nd-17 25/08/1979. 0.5L x sht ½ hd Sandown, Melbourne, VIC, AUS VATC Liston Stakes 1400m. 58.5kg 1.26.4. Slow, 6/1. Waitangarua (NZ) 58.5 14/1 1st Crepellox (NZ) 58.5 4/6F 3rd AUD 5,000 4th-5 1/09/1979. 1L x lg nk Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS VATC Memsie Stakes 1600m. 58.5kg 1.43.3. Heavy, 2/1. Arbre Chene (NZ) 58.5 4/1 1st Crepellox (NZ) 58.5 7/4F 3rd AUD 1,250 10th-11 15/09/1979. Hd x lg nk Moonee Valley, Melbourne, VIC, AUS MVRC John F Feehan Stakes 1600m. 58.5kg 1.37.6. Good, 9/2. Gondolier 57 7/1 1st Arbre Chene 58.5 9/4F 3rd AUD 0 11th-12 22/09/1979. 0.5L x hd Rosehill, Sydney, NSW, AUS STC Hill Stakes 1750m. 59kg 1.47.0. Fast, 12/1. Imposing 57 7/4F 1st Prince Ruling (NZ) 48.5 15/1 2nd AUD 0 8th-21 1/10/1979. Lg nk x nk Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS AJC Avis The Metropolitan Hcp 2600m. 60.5kg 2.42.0. Good, 50/1. Earthquake McGoon 51 40/1 1st French Command (NZ) 51 5/1EF 6th, Iko 50.5 5/1EF 11th AUD 0 10th-14 13/10/1979. 3L x 0.75L Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS VATC Caulfield Stakes 2000m. 59kg 2.04.6. Slow, 33/1. Mighty Kingdom 48.5 10/1 1st Double Century 57 2/1F 7th AUD 0 15th-18 20/10/1979. 1.5L x 0.75L Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS VATC Caulfield Cup 2400m. 59kg 2.29.9. Good, 66/1. Mighty Kingdom 47 10/1 1st Double Century 57 5/1F 17th AUD 0 11th-12 27/10/1979. 7L x 4L Moonee Valley, Melbourne, VIC, AUS MVRC W. S. Cox Plate 2050m. 59kg 2.04.9. Good, 50/1. Dulcify 57 7/4F 1st Shivaree 59 9/4 2nd AUD 0 4th-13 9/02/1980. 2L x 2.5L Sandown, Melbourne, VIC, AUS VATC C.F. Orr Stakes 1400m. 57.5kg 1.23.5. Fast, 66/1. Manikato 57 2/9F 1st Hyperno 57.5 12/1 2nd AUD 1,250 5th-11 23/02/1980. 1L x 2L Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS VATC St. George Stakes 1800m. 58kg 1.50.4. Good, 20/1. Minuetto 56.5 7/2 1st Hyperno 58 7/4F 3rd AUD 0 5th-9 1/03/1980. Hd x 2.25L Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS VATC T S Carlyon Cup Abt. 2000m. 57.5kg 1.59.9. Good, 13/2. There You Go 50.5 6/1 1st He'll Do (NZ) 54 3/1F 2nd AUD 0 1st-12 10/03/1980. Sht hd x 2.25L Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS VRC Australian Cup 2000m. 58kg 2.02.1. Good, 25/1. Double Century 57 14/1 2nd Shivaree (NZ) 6/4F 5th AUD 66,000 9th-13 7/04/1980. Sht ½ hd x 1.25L Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS AJC Queen Elizabeth Randwick Stakes 2000m. 58kg 2.03.3. Good, 7/1. Iko 58 8/1 1st Double Century 57 9/4F 2nd AUD 0 SEVEN YEARS: 1980 -1981 Starts 12: 1-1-0-10 6th-11 9/08/1980. Sht hd x 2.25L Rosehill, Sydney, NSW, AUS STC Griffen Homes Missile Stakes 1100m. 58kg 1.04.7. Fast, 40/1. Macho 58 7/2 1st High Adventure 58 6/1 2nd AUD 0 9th-10 30/08/1980. 1L x 0.5L Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS AJC Warwick Stakes 1400m. 58.5kg 1.23.2 (RR) Fast, 50/1. Kingston Town 57 1/3F 1st Blockbuster 58.5 11/1 2nd AUD 0 2nd-4 13/09/1980. 5L x 2L Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS Tattersall's Club (NSW) Chelmsford Stakes 1800m. 59kg 1.49.3. Good, 16/1. Kingston Town 57 1/20F 1st Argyle Morgan 59 40/1 3rd AUD 3,600 4th-11 27/09/1980. 1.75L x 2.25L Rosehill, Sydney, NSW, AUS STC STC Cup 2400m. 60kg 2.29.9. Fast, 14/1. Kingston Town 57 1/10F 1st Over The Ocean (NZ) 60 100/1 2nd AUD 2,500 10th-24 6/10/1980. 2.25L x ½ hd Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS AJC The Metropolitan 2600m. 58kg 2.42.0. Fast, 40/1. Brindisi 5.05 40/1 1st Sovita (NZ) 50 15/1 3rd AUD 0 1st-17 18/10/1980. 1.25L x lg nk Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS VATC Caulfield Cup (G1) 2400m. 58kg 2.28.7. Fast 50/1. Hyperno 59 5/1 2nd Kingston Town 60 11/4F 3rd AUD 130,000 6th-14 25/10/1980. 5L x 1L Moonee Valley, Melbourne, VIC, AUS MVRC W S Cox Plate 2050m. 59kg 2.07.3. Good 20/1. Kingston Town 57 6/4F 1st Prince Ruling 57 40/1 2nd AUD 0 17th-22 4/11/1980. 1.5L x 2L Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS VRC Melbourne Cup 3200m. 58kg 3.19.8. Fast 12/1 Beldale Ball 49.5 11/1 1st Hyperno 58.5 3/1F 7th AUD 0 7th-9 7/02/1981. Hd x 2.25L Sandown, Melbourne, VIC, AUS VATC C.F. Orr Stakes 1400m. 57.5kg 1.24.1. Good, 66/1. Manikato 57.5 4/11F 1st My Brown Jug (NZ) 57 20/1 2nd AUD 0 4th-5 14/02/1981. DH x 4L Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS VATC St. George Stakes 1800m. 58kg 1.50.1. Fast, 20/1. Hyperno (NZ) 58 11/8F 1st My Brown Jug (NZ) 57 13/8 DH 1st AUD 1,500 8th-9 28/02/1981. ½ hd x 0.5L Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS VRC Blamey Quality 1600m. 58.5kg 1.36.4. Fast, 50/1. Hyperno (NZ) 58.5 6/1 1st My Brown Jug (NZ) 56.5 2/1F 2nd AUD 0 6th-10 7/03/1981. 2L x 0.75L Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS VRC Australian Cup 2000m. 58kg 2.04.3. Fast, 12/1. Hyperno (NZ) 58 11/8F 1st Turf Ruler (NZ) 58 12/1 2nd AUD 0 Everybody's favourite grey was Ming Two Caulfield Cups, two Australian Cups, a memorable Metrop, a QE2 and a Craiglee. Was a very frustrating horse for punters at 6 and 7 - only two wins but what wins they were. Australian Cup beating Double Century and Shivaree, then beat Hyperno and Kingston Town in the Caulfield Cup aged 7. Bolted in. Was out at Randwick the day he lumped 59.5 kg to just hold off Arwon with 49 kg in the Metrop - Arwon went on to win the Melbourne Cup that year. Will never forget it. The crowd went beserk as he returned to scale. Bart tells the story in his book where Ming became a clerk of the course horse at Randwick. But one day a stablehand came in and said there was a strange grey horse in one of the stables - it was Ming who had escaped and come home to Leilani Lodge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted September 19, 2019 Author Share Posted September 19, 2019 Please note the author posting at the bottom is not me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted September 19, 2019 Author Share Posted September 19, 2019 Well spotted, that was going to be my next question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngakonui grass Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Wiki and another publication says he had 74 starts and 20 wins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted September 20, 2019 Author Share Posted September 20, 2019 On 9/19/2019 at 8:50 AM, Hesi said: Going to have to get a lot tougher. These 3 iconic Aus horses, between them had almost 200 starts, and despite 7 attempts, none ever won a MC Tough horses compared to the light campaigns of most of today's mob Who are they 13. Well tried with over 70 starts, including 4 attempts at the Caulfield Cup, 2 attempts at the MC. Won a lot of major G1 cups, even beat the MC winner of that year in a race a month before the cup, carrying 10.5 kg more. Developed a homing pigeon tendency when retired 14. Again, over 70 starts, 3 MC attempts for no wins, in fact their last race was in the MC. Quite a bit of a different career, as they had no group race starts at 3 years, and only one of those races was at 2000m, the rest mainly being in the sprinter/miler range. 15. Over 40 starts, with a more than 50% win record. Raced in the MC as a 3 year old and a 4 year old, and not even close. Unbeaten as a 5 year old. Great name Still to go The better than 50% win record refers to just the Aus starts..............and still a great name, almost in the same league as Silver Knight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngakonui grass Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 13 hours ago, Hesi said: Still to go The better than 50% win record refers to just the Aus starts..............and still a great name, almost in the same league as Silver Knight Tobin Bronze? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted September 21, 2019 Author Share Posted September 21, 2019 18 minutes ago, ngakonui grass said: Tobin Bronze? Yep, well done Another great name from the past, just rolls off your tongue, and any horse with a name like that, just had to be a champion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted September 21, 2019 Author Share Posted September 21, 2019 16. Who is the pic off. The horse never won a Caulfield Cup, but won a MC on their third attempt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted September 21, 2019 Author Share Posted September 21, 2019 I notice Mr Wiseguy(All The Arses) from the other site, missing in action on The MC front, but very quick to have a go at others when he has an answer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Comic Court 1950 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted September 21, 2019 Author Share Posted September 21, 2019 Yep, another with a better than 50% win record, 54 starts for 28 wins. Who is the good looking guy though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Bart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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