Hesi Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 30 Piko* $15,155.40 (33) 10/1 No joker , so have to rely on other results. Also have the bye, so max they can score is 3 points 28 Roughnecks $14,401.40 (38) 2/1 - Have the advantage of a joker at hand, but can't play conservative, as the Maxis loom as a threat 26 Lowdown* $12,300.80 (31) 25/1 Relying on the Roughnecks to get beaten by Usain Colt, but it can only be a 6 pointer, Maxis to lose or only win with a 4 pointer, Piko to bomb out with no points 25 MX5 $14,503.40 (35) 4/1 Just a little further back than they anticipated, but still also have a joker. They also have to go for the maximum 10 points to counter a good win by the Roughnecks 23 Usain Colt $15,613.40 (33) 10/1 Advantage of the highest aggregate, and an opponent that has to also go for it. They pull off a 10 pointer which they are capable of, then they could steal the comp 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globederby19 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Hesi said: They also have to go for the maximum 10 points to counter a good win by the Roughnecks Good luck with that. They have to get past ME first. 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 47 minutes ago, Maximus said: MX5 4/1 Just a little further back than they anticipated, but still also have a joker. They also have to go for the maximum 10 points to counter a good win by the Roughnecks MX3 reckons 4/1 is prohibitive odds for MX5, given how rarely 8-10pts is scored. But IMO (In Max's Opinion), we don't 'need' to go for 10pts. 6 could be enough, if Piko and Wuffies lose and/or fail to get a high aggregate. MX5 have certainly had a bad case of wobbly wheels the last few weeks - but Sat presents a perfect 'final fling' to grab the MAX. That would be strategically suicidal, as it would only eliminate 1 of your 4 opponents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 41 minutes ago, Maximus said: look, we're just gonna smash them Crazy Horsies to pieces...all poor Max knows so far is that 6pts is the least required to win and Max's own personal form is the problem. Appointment with the shrink tomorrow morn, tarot card lady after a liquid lunch, massage therapy while reading the form guide Fri nite and I reckon I might score over $50 for a change. Might even be enuf to knock off Plovdiv ... MM You're babbling mate. Relax... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TooFast Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 The chances of the Roughnecks and the MX5 winning this Comp will almost certainly depend on most of these "red-hots" being beaten :- - I Wish I Win - Cheval Prometteur - Imperatriz - Avantage - Heresy - Verry Ellegant - Nature Strip Even just five out of those seven win ...and the Roughnecks and MX5 are toast ! Fair comment ? ☺️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooFast Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 I don't consider this to be 'commercially-sensitive' information. Team Piko will be playing their 'bye' game on Saturday in the 'Lowdowns v Hot Toddy' match. PJ called it exactly right. 🙂 Never doubted him for a minute. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PWJ Posted September 16, 2021 Author Share Posted September 16, 2021 27 minutes ago, Maximus said: Howie, what are the assumptions you're making here? You could be being fed red herrings for breakfast here, Max 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globederby19 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 37 minutes ago, Maximus said: Howie, what are the assumptions you're making here? That there is a village somewhere missing its prime suspect. ??? 🥴 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VC! Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 7 hours ago, TooFast said: The chances of the Roughnecks and the MX5 winning this Comp will almost certainly depend on most of these "red-hots" being beaten :- - I Wish I Win - Cheval Prometteur - Imperatriz - Avantage - Heresy - Verry Ellegant - Nature Strip Even just five out of those seven win ...and the Roughnecks and MX5 are toast ! Fair comment ? Colts please disregard the above information. Stick to the plan Project Annihilation!!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Predictions No aggregate bonus points will be scored, as all teams except for Piko, are obliged to go for a proportionately high number of longer priced selections, many of which will not come in, by the very virtue of them being outsiders. Therefore, no 8 or 10 pointers scored A comfortable win in the end to Piko, who even if they hit the wall, will still have enough points to hold for the win, with 30 32 Piko $16,155.40 29 Usain Colt $16,813.40 29 MX5 $15,403.40 29 Lowdown $13,400.80 28 Roughnecks $15,201.40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted September 17, 2021 Author Share Posted September 17, 2021 16 minutes ago, Hesi said: Predictions No aggregate bonus points will be scored, as all teams except for Piko, are obliged to go for a proportionately high number of longer priced selections, many of which will not come in, by the very virtue of them being outsiders. Therefore, no 8 or 10 pointers scored A comfortable win in the end to Piko, who even if they hit the wall, will still have enough points to hold for the win, with 30 32 Piko $16,155.40 29 Usain Colt $16,813.40 29 MX5 $15,403.40 29 Lowdown $13,400.80 28 Roughnecks $15,201.40 I think you might be bang on there Alan. I still reckon The Roughnecks look to be in the box seat. A 3 point win (either team profit or 4-1 margin) and they make Piko's effort irrelevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Hesi said: Predictions No aggregate bonus points will be scored, as all teams except for Piko, are obliged to go for a proportionately high number of longer priced selections, many of which will not come in, by the very virtue of them being outsiders. Therefore, no 8 or 10 pointers scored A comfortable win in the end to Piko, who even if they hit the wall, will still have enough points to hold for the win, with 30 32 Piko $16,155.40 29 Usain Colt $16,813.40 29 MX5 $15,403.40 29 Lowdown $13,400.80 28 Roughnecks $15,201.40 And then you woke up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooFast Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 5 hours ago, Maximus said: Howie, what are the assumptions you're making here? Just stirring the ole pot, Maxi ! PJ's on to it ...again ! ☺️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooFast Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Hesi said: Predictions No aggregate bonus points will be scored, as all teams except for Piko, are obliged to go for a proportionately high number of longer priced selections, many of which will not come in, by the very virtue of them being outsiders. Therefore, no 8 or 10 pointers scored A comfortable win in the end to Piko, who even if they hit the wall, will still have enough points to hold for the win, with 30 32 Piko $16,155.40 29 Usain Colt $16,813.40 29 MX5 $15,403.40 29 Lowdown $13,400.80 28 Roughnecks $15,201.40 You're on to it, Alan ! I concur. 😊 If it wasn't for covid restrictions Team Piko would be having someone in already polishing up the trophy cabinet all ready for the latest acquisition. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richie Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 11 hours ago, TooFast said: The chances of the Roughnecks and the MX5 winning this Comp will almost certainly depend on most of these "red-hots" being beaten :- - I Wish I Win - Cheval Prometteur - Imperatriz - Avantage - Heresy - Verry Ellegant - Nature Strip Even just five out of those seven win ...and the Roughnecks and MX5 are toast ! Fair comment ? ☺️ Avantage injured,has been retired 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Te Akau stable star, nine-time Group 1 winner Avantage (Fastnet Rock – Asavant, by Zabeel) has been retired after suffering a tendon injury. At nine Group 1 wins, Avantage is the record-holder for her champion Australian sire Fastnet Rock (Danehill). The former Champion Two-Year-Old and Karaka Million winner, who has won Group races on both sides of the Tasman, was pre-post favourite for the Tarzino Trophy (Gr. 1, 1400m) on Saturday at Hastings. “We’re all absolutely gutted about Avantage but unfortunately this can happen in racing,” said trainer Jamie Richards. “We’d been very happy with her, but it became apparent when Nicole (Shailer) came back to work this afternoon that she had heat in her off-fore leg. “We had the vet there to scan it immediately and she has a hole in the tendon and will be retired forthwith from racing. “She’s been a wonderful mare who has achieved some incredible feats on the racetrack, and we can’t thank her enough for all the thrills and experiences she’s given us. “A Karaka Million winner and Group 1 winning two-year-old that was named Champion Two-Year-Old and she’s gone on to conquer all before her in an amazing career. “It’s very sad for the owners and all the team, especially Nicole who looks after her in the Middle Barn, and Trev (Stewart) who straps her – they just adore her and she can be quite cranky at times. “We just want to reiterate what a wonderful job she’s done for all of us in the racing industry.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 22 minutes ago, Maximus said: but if Piko choose a match that turns out to involve even moderately high-scoring they could score no points... and Roughies can LOSE with a higher aggregate and team profit to score 4pts ..enuf to gazzump whatever Piko do ... We still score a point for aggregate 1320 if we get it, that's under our control The match we choose, will involve one or more teams who have to go for it to score maximums, which means they could come unstuck in a big way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, Hesi said: We still score a point for aggregate 1320 if we get it, that's under our control The match we choose, will involve one or more teams who have to go for it to score maximums, which means they could come unstuck in a big way You guys are more dependant on aggregate score than anyone else. My team will be just doing what they normally do, we won't be going on some sort of kamikaze mission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globederby19 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 12 minutes ago, pete said: we won't be going on some sort of kamikaze We will. I want to shut Max up , I thought Howie had verbal diarrhoea but he,s a choir boy in comparison. You will need a wing and a prayer this weekend Maxi.😜 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Show Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 15 minutes ago, pete said: You guys are more dependant on aggregate score than anyone else. My team will be just doing what they normally do, we won't be going on some sort of kamikaze mission. 😄💃 and the Hottys will be having an end of season party in the cellar tomorrow so heaven knows what we'll select 🙂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, Dancing Show said: 😄💃 and the Hottys will be having an end of season party in the cellar tomorrow so heaven knows what we'll select 🙂 Can we join in? Sounds like the most fun I've had in 4.5 weeks. In fact it sounds like the only fun I've had in 4.5 weeks. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double R Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, Dancing Show said: 😄💃 and the Hottys will be having an end of season party in the cellar tomorrow so heaven knows what we'll select 🙂 And good luck with your selections, Maria. Try not to steamroll me too much tomorrow, so I can recover, to be in your team for the next competition. Robert. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 11 minutes ago, Maximus said: Methinks thou are speaking nonsense ...are you saying scoring 10pts last weekend wasnt fun? Some of us are in a bloody lockdown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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