Hesi Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 12 hours ago, Hesi said: A few observations heading into the semis Magnificent Seven 3 Maxis, 1 Five O, no JG or MTF's Unfortunate Five Just Pete from the JG Worst win/loss records, Pete and Hesi from the JG Best win record, John from Five O How on earth is it a JG/MTF final Further to this Perhaps PJ, time to look at the McIntyre system for the playoffs. So, in a 2 round robin, 8 team comp, each side is effectively playing for it's 1-8 placing, and the glory of the minor premiership. It means an extra 2 weeks, but to a larger extent, eliminates the sudden death aspect for teams that have earned their ranking For info Week 1 4th qualifying final: 1st v 8th 3rd qualifying final: 2nd v 7th 2nd qualifying final: 3rd v 6th 1st qualifying final: 4th v 5th The organisation of the rest of the finals series is dependent upon whether teams won or lost in week 1 and their final ranking on the ladder before the finals. The two lowest-ranked losers are eliminated from the finals, while the two highest-ranked winners progress straight to week 3. Week 2 1st semi final: 4th highest-ranked winner v 2nd highest-ranked loser 2nd semi final: 3rd highest-ranked winner (from week 1) v 1st highest-ranked loser (from week 1) The two losing teams are eliminated, the two winning teams progress to week 3. Week 3 1st preliminary final: 1st highest-ranked winner (from week 1) v winner of 1st semi final 2nd preliminary final: 2nd highest-ranked winner (from week 1) v winner of 2nd semi final The two losing teams are eliminated, the two winning teams progress to week four. Week 4 Grand final: winner of 1st preliminary final v winner of 2nd preliminary final Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 Good suggestion Don't worry Virgil, I'll be there soon in the Canes to help John kick your ass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharne Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 wow that was not i thought it would pan out well done to the winning teams will watch with interest next week to see who the winter champions are good luck all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VC! Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 1 hour ago, VvD said: I think someone else (Ian?) had a good suggestion. If you have 8 teams, it doesn't seem right that they all make the play-offs, so you have the top 4 make the play-offs and you add an extra week to the play-offs. Week 1: 1st plays 2nd - winner advance to the grand final. 3rd plays 4th - loser is eliminated. Week 2: Loser of 1st vs 2nd plays winner of 3rd vs 4th for a spot in the final Week 3: Final In this way the top 2 teams get a life. Having said that the current system works ok too and has stood the test of time. Agree there is no advantage for the top 2 teams, but it just means teams have to step up in the semi finals. Speaking of which, well done team JG - deserved winners yesterday, and apologies skipper for a poor showing - you must have sore shoulders by now. Yeah it was me I also agree the current system has stood the test of time, so not to worried either way Congratulations to the Gang and WTF gonna be a cracker of a final well deserved on getting this far Hard luck Max beaten by a sub, unfortunately there is no right answer Five Oh I think you guys would have won had the Brisbane Carnival still been going, Flemington arrrgh Unfortunately you have to deal with the cards that are dealt, and JG and MTF got the job done Enjoy next week 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted June 20, 2020 Author Share Posted June 20, 2020 Max, is Georgy Boy a starter for the National Champs ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted June 20, 2020 Author Share Posted June 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Hesi said: Further to this Perhaps PJ, time to look at the McIntyre system for the playoffs. So, in a 2 round robin, 8 team comp, each side is effectively playing for it's 1-8 placing, and the glory of the minor premiership. It means an extra 2 weeks, but to a larger extent, eliminates the sudden death aspect for teams that have earned their ranking Hesi, I have tried the Macintyre system before and I believe it is a good one (although it did attract criticism) but the 8 team version is just too long to resolve. The 5 team version may be a possibility in future. The straight semi-Final/Grand Final system I have used this time can be cruel as the two top performing teams found out yesterday but it also gives some a chance to play in a GF that they might not otherwise get often and keeps everyone's interest up for the next comp. Whoever wins next Saturday will deserve it believe me ! It's a bit like the FA Cup - one bad match and you're out. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted June 27, 2020 Author Share Posted June 27, 2020 GRAND FINAL - Sat June 27 Race 1 - Rosehill R2 1st - 7 Rothenburg W-$5.20 2nd - 8 Cloud Factory Q-$144.30 Scr: 2,14,16,17,21 2 THE JAMES GANG 156.00 0 MUCH TOO FAST 52.00Opponents Rex and Pete are off the mark with the opening winner but Hesi and Steve also label the James Mac bolter to hand The James Gang a nice early advantage. 52.00 Hesi 0.00 Craig 0.00 Blind Squirrel 0.00 Zac 52.00 Pete 52.00 Rex 0.00 Jack 0.00 Howie 52.00 Steve P 0.00 Ashoka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted June 27, 2020 Author Share Posted June 27, 2020 In the next: The James Gang go further ahead with Terwilliker (The Squirrel) while Sweet Thomas helps Much Too Fast pull one back with Ablaze or Loveseat (Howie both) or Re Edit (Ashoka) and draw level with Pelonomena (Craig) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted June 27, 2020 Author Share Posted June 27, 2020 BBs won't come into play until race 7 !!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooFast Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, PWJ said: GRAND FINAL - Sat June 27 Race 1 - Rosehill R2 1st - 7 Rothenburg W-$5.20 2nd - 8 Cloud Factory Q-$86.10 Scr: 2,14,16,17,21 2 THE JAMES GANG 156.00 0 MUCH TOO FAST 52.00The James Gang a nice early advantage. The 'MTF' master-plan coming together nicely even at this very early stage. Steady ...find our feet ...... then POUNCE ! You never used to see 'Winx' lead up too often either. So we're in very good company. But come the home straight ! 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted June 27, 2020 Author Share Posted June 27, 2020 GRAND FINAL - Sat June 27 Race 2 - Rosehill R3 1st - 1 Sweet Thomas W-$11.40 2nd - 7 Loveseat Q-$32.40 Scr: nil 3 THE JAMES GANG $448.80 1 MUCH TOO FAST $166.00Zac is the second MTF to get on the board with the German grinder and now leads The Squirrel but Jack does likewise to Howie and Steve snags a beaut quinella to put some distance between himself and the dangerous Ashoka. Margin still the same but score now 3-1. 52.00 Hesi 0.00 Craig 0.00 Blind Squirrel 114.00 Zac 52.00 Pete 52.00 Rex 114.00 Jack 0.00 Howie 230.80 Steve P 0.00 Ashoka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted June 27, 2020 Author Share Posted June 27, 2020 In the next: The James Gang go further ahead with Zing (Pete) while Fulmina and Milunka help Much Too Fast can pull one back with Word For Word (Rex) and draw level with Azarmin (Craig) while Lady Highly helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted June 27, 2020 Author Share Posted June 27, 2020 GRAND FINAL - Sat June 27 Race 3 - Rosehill R4 1st - 14 Fulmina W-$4.40 2nd - 1 Guise Q-$47.20 Scr: 4,8 3 THE JAMES GANG $668.80 1 MUCH TOO FAST $342.00Only Zac missed the Snitzel winner and no one snagged the quinella so the only change is Blind Squirrel making up some ground on Zac. Everyone is on the board. 96.00 Hesi 44.00 Craig 44.00 Blind Squirrel 114.00 Zac 96.00 Pete 96.00 Rex 158.00 Jack 44.00 Howie 274.80 Steve P 44.00 Ashoka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted June 27, 2020 Author Share Posted June 27, 2020 Off to Doomben and in the next: The James Gang go further ahead with Another Dollar or Picka Plum (both Pete) Much Too Fast pull one back with La Pulga or Le Juge (both Rex) and draw level with Alward or Kaonic (both Craig) with either must pay $5.30 plus or the pair complete the Q while Satono Rasen helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted June 27, 2020 Author Share Posted June 27, 2020 Even race with the first 5 in the betting covered by only 70 cents ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted June 27, 2020 Author Share Posted June 27, 2020 I get the feeling that this is a critical race for MTF to make hay and get back into the contest. Pete's two Kiwi-breds look to be the potential thorns in their side 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Gallivant Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, PWJ said: I get the feeling that this is a critical race for MTF to make hay and get back into the contest. Pete's two Kiwi-breds look to be the potential thorns in their side I Will either make money off Pete this race or my two will fight out the finish 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted June 27, 2020 Author Share Posted June 27, 2020 Kaonic best supported with the bookies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooFast Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 wow ...Stevie P hs gone 4 from 4 ! and Pete and Hesi not far behind with 3 from 4. settle down eh, fellas, this ain't the way I wrote the script. notwithsatnding the above, , the MTF fightback is about to be launched. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted June 27, 2020 Author Share Posted June 27, 2020 GRAND FINAL - Sat June 27 Race 4 - Doomben R5 1st - 1 Another Dollar W-$5.30 2nd - 9 La Pulga Q-$17.50 Scr: 6 4 THE JAMES GANG $827.80 1 MUCH TOO FAST $501.00Ashoka, Howie and Zac on the Waller winner for MTF but Hesi, Pete and Steve (4 for 4) reply for The Gang who go further ahead with Pete pulling clear of Rex. 149.00 Hesi 44.00 Craig 44.00 Blind Squirrel 167.00 Zac 149.00 Pete 96.00 Rex 158.00 Jack 97.00 Howie 327.80 Steve P 97.00 Ashoka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooFast Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 All 5 games well within the 'MTF' scope. That'll be the benefit to 'MTF' of no Joker plays in the match until R7.🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Just now, TooFast said: All 5 games well within the 'MTF' scope. That'll be the benefit to 'MTF' of no Joker plays in the match until R7.🙂 Hmmm. I admire your positivity Howie. Presuming you mean Best Bets? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted June 27, 2020 Author Share Posted June 27, 2020 Back to Rosehill for the Iron Jack: The James Gang are helped by Attention Run, Big Duke or Carzoff (++) Much Too Fast can pull one back with Sixties Groove (Craig), Wu Gok (must pay $5.40+ or Sully complete the Q - Rex) and seize the lead with Sully (must pay $5.40+ or Wu Gok complete the Q) for Rex and Howie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted June 27, 2020 Author Share Posted June 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, TooFast said: All 5 games well within the 'MTF' scope. That'll be the benefit to 'MTF' of no Joker plays in the match until R7.🙂 a few nerves perhaps... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooFast Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, pete said: Hmmm. I admire your positivity Howie. Presuming you mean Best Bets? absolutely Pete .... best bets ...... PJ refused to allow me Joker plays today ...... very picky I thought ... 😁 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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